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Smallpox Croakings

assembled mostly from my postings to SCIFRAUD mail list in spring 2000

Subject: Re: biohazard
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 13:52:30 +0400
From: Dmitriy Yuryev <d.yuryev@mtu-net.ru>
To: Peter Hinkle

Dear Peter,

Thank you for your letter.

Of course, I have already heard about this outbreak.
Indeed, nice coincidence with my recent croakings.

It is exactly what I told about. One possible
scenario of starting smallpox epidemic is catching
full-blown smallpox from vaccination. Mainstream
science fiercely denies feasibility of such event.
That is, they say, smallpox may be developed as a rare vaccine
reaction but the official opinion is that such smallpox
is not contagious.

For a long time similar opinion prevailed concerning polio vaccine
as well. Yet about ten years ago it was officially disproved when
a case report was published of a father contracted polio from his
vaccinated daughter.
It is fun, but WHO did find any trouble in this report continuing
campaign of dreaming about polio irradication.

Of course, ability of vaccines to trigger epidemics is
the most popular theme of ani-vaccine authors. As an
epidemiological proof vaccination campaign in Philippines
is frequently cited where smallpox was rare but after
starting vaccination an epidemic occurred with over
60000 deaths in 1918-19.

Returning to the story in Vladivostok, it is indeed a
very unusual case in several respects at once.
But it is early to talk about smallpox. The photographs
demonstrated on TV are clearly those of cowpox,
i.e. a rather typical severe vaccine reaction.

PS Perhaps, you have seen a nice collection of materials
on smallpox (recently mentioned in SCIFRAUD by John Hewitt):
There are links about another possible source of smallpox
from its natural hosts (under the name of monkeypox).
By the way it was nice to see mention in Biohazard book
that monkeypox can't spread to humans -- KGB immunologists
are very faithful jennerians.

> Russian Germ Warfare Antidote Gives Kids Smallpox
> Vladivostok, Jun 19, 2000 -- (Reuters) At least
> eight children in Russia's Far East have contracted a
> mild form of smallpox from discarded vaccine
> ampoules which a local clinic kept in case of germ
> warfare attack, officials said on Monday.
> Few people living today - even doctors - have
> had any experience of smallpox, which has been
> officially eradicated worldwide. The last case
> of the disease was registered in 1977 in Africa and
> countries stopped vaccinating against it in 1980.
> Dmitry Maslov, chief local medical inspector,
> told Reuters the children's infections did not put their
> lives in danger and could not spread to others.
> NTV commercial television said the young boys and
> girls faces were likely to be scarred for life.
> Maslov said doctors in the regional capital
> Vladivostok had trouble diagnosing eight children aged six
> to 12 who had been taken to hospital with fever
> and severe rashes.
> Their condition was pinned down to smallpox when
> doctors discovered that the children had played
> with glass ampoules they found in the dustbin of
> the local epidemiological center.
> The center kept dozens of boxes of smallpox
> vaccine to combat a possible enemy germ attack, as
> required by civil defense rules. When the
> vaccine expired the medics threw the ampoules away instead
> of destroying them, he said.
> NTV said discarded boxes were strewn over a
> large area.
> A prosecutor told Reuters officials expected to
> charge managers of the epidemiological center with
> criminal negligence.

Subject: Re: Tons of smallpox
Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 19:13:04 +0400
From: Dmitriy Yuryev <d.yuryev@mtu-net.ru>
To:Discussion of Fraud in Science <SCIFRAUD@listserv.albany.edu>

Peter Hinkle wrote:
>> > A new strain was used
>> > later called India 1967, isolated from an outbreak in 1959 which infected
>> > 46 people in Moscow, even though smallpox was eradicated from the SU in
>> > 1936.


Why I was interested by fragment quoted by Peter is that I never heard
about that outbreak of smallpox in Moscow.
Let's do some calculations: smallpox was eradicated in USSR in 1936
and in 1959 there was new outbreak -- that is in 23 years.
WHO registered the last case of smallpox in 1977 so, you should agree,
there is some reason to expect outbreak in 2000. The difference is that
compulsory vaccinations were not stopped in USSR in 1936 but they are
stopped now for almost twenty years. Therefore, we may expect today
a full-blown epidemic rather than local outbreak.

Furthemore, this sort of epidemiological information was kept secret by USSR.
So, most likely, WHO knew nothing about Moscow outbreak at the moment of declaring
smallpox eradication. I am sure, it does not want to know anything
today as well.

Questioning validity of smallpox eradication is quite popular in
anti-vaccine groups. There are MANY other considerations
supporting serious doubts. I will try to find relevant links if
anybody is interested.


Subject: Re: Tons of smallpox
Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 16:04:09 +0400
From: Dmitriy Yuryev <d.yuryev@mtu-net.ru>
To:Discussion of Fraud in Science <SCIFRAUD@listserv.albany.edu>

OK, Peter, now it looks better.

Yet, in fact, I do not understand where you see any sort
of fraud in these tons of smallpox and thousands of eggs.

The only idea I see relevant to SCIFRAUD implied by this
fragment is that, perhaps, announcements of smallpox
irradication (in USSR in 1936 and in the whole world in 1980)
were false.

I think, this is not what you mean. But, anyway, thanks for
reminding this popular theme. Surely, nice nominee
for a "top 5 Worst Cases". Though, of course, it should be
proved by a decent epidemic first.

peter hinkle wrote:
> Hi Dmitriy,
> I did simplify the story told in about 35 pages into one sentence. The
> book (Biohazard) seems entirely credible. I would be interested in your
> opinion if you can get a copy. All of my information is from the book. From
> 1988 to 1992 Alibek(ov)"was the first deputy chief of Biopreparat, the
> Soviet State pharmaceutical agency whose primary function was to develop
> and produce weapons made from the most dangerous viruses, toxins and
> bacteria known to man."
> The soviets began manufacture of smallpox as a weapon in 1947 in Zagorsk
> (now Sergiyev Posad) using 100,000 eggs per month. A new strain was used
> later called India 1967, isolated from an outbreak in 1959 which infected
> 46 people in Moscow, even though smallpox was eradicated from the SU in
> 1936. "In the 1970's smallpox was considered so important that the annual
> stockpile was 20 tons." Apparently the immunity fades, especially against
> very virulent strains.
> The basis for my brief summary was that the WHO announced the eradication
> in 1980 and "smallpox was included in the list of viral and bacterial
> weapons targeted for improvement in the 1981-85 Five-Year-Plan."
> Peter

Subject: Re: Tons of smallpox
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 21:19:31 +0400
From: Dmitriy Yuryev <d.yuryev@mtu-net.ru>
To:Discussion of Fraud in Science <SCIFRAUD@listserv.albany.edu>

peter hinkle wrote:

> I just read "Biohazard" by Ken Alibek. The Soviet reaction to the
> announcement that smallpox was eradicated was that it is now an excellent
> bioweapon and they grew tons of it for multitargeted ICBM's. I look forward
> to Al's review.

I'm afraid, Peter, you misunderstood something again.
Or was it a Greenpeace booklet?

Announcement of smallpox irradication is not sufficient
for successful use smallpox as a bioweapon. The trouble is that
smallpox vaccination provides LIFELONG immunity. So, to conquer
America, we first should stop vaccinations of newborns
(well, it happened in early eighties) and then wait 20-25 until
USA would be susceptible to major smallpox epidemic
or over 40 years until US army becomes completely unvaccinated.

I think, soviet generals are not so stupid to create weapon
which will be useless for so long time.

Then, I have heard, campaign on smallpox eradication
conducted by WHO was initiated by Soviet delegation.
Do you really believe that we just prepared the ground to
use our rockets?